Young Idea

Young Idea
Young Idea
	Young Idea & Jack Pratt; Randwick Racecourse
Sire	Constant Son (GB)
Grandsire	Son-in-Law (GB)
Dam	Persuasion (AUS)
Damsire	The Welkin (GB)
Sex	Stallion
Foaled	1932
Country	Australia
Colour	Brown
Breeder	Kia Ora Stud
Owner	A.G.Hunter & Percy Miller; Percy Miller from 15.8.1936
Trainer	Fred Foulsham; Jack Holt from 15.8.1936
Record	70: 15, 11, 13
Earnings	£18,555[1]
Major wins
	AJC Sires Produce Stakes (1935); AJC Champagne Stakes (1935); VRC Sires' Produce Stakes (1935); Sir Herbert Maitland Stakes (1935); Caulfield Guineas (1935); Underwood Stakes (1935, 1937); Caulfield Stakes (1936); Linlithgow Stakes (1936); W. S. Cox Plate (1936, 1937) ; St George Stakes (1937); Craven Plate (1938)

Young Idea (foaled 1932) was a brown Australian thoroughbred stallion who raced for five seasons from a two-year-old to a six-year-old, recording major wins in Sydney and Melbourne from 6 furlongs to 1¼ miles.[2]

Percy Miller & Jack Holt Randwick 1933.

Breeding

Young Idea was bred by Percy Miller Kia Ora Stud Scone and was sold for 500 guineas to owner A.G. Hunter. Percy Miller later purchased a half share after the sale and in 1936 purchased A.G.Hunter's half share holding when transferred to trainer Jack Holt and retired to Kia Ora Stud in 1939.[3][4][5][6]

Sire Constant Son (GB) sire of 10 stakeswinners began stud duty in Australia in 1930 as a two-year-old won the Arlington Stakes at Newmarket and later the Derby Gold Cup 1¾ miles. Grandsire Son-in-Law was the leading sire in Great Britain and Ireland in 1924 and 1930. Major wins being the 1914–15 Jockey Club Cup and 1914 Goodwood Cup.[7][8][9]

Dam Persuasion (AUS) won the 1927 AJC Adrian Knox Stakes at Randwick Racecourse. Damsire The Welkin (GB) the leading sire in Australia 1918–19 and 1920–22 and sire of the New Zealand champion Gloaming.[10][11]

Racing career

Young Idea raced between 1934 and 1939 the winner of 8 Group 1 races in the modern era and a dual 1936–37 W. S. Cox Plate winner also the 1935 WFA Sir Herbert Maitland Stakes at Victoria Park Zetland and second behind the champion Peter Pan in the 1935 RRC Hill Stakes.[12]

1938 racebook

Front cover of the 1938 W S Cox Plate racebook.
Inside cover showing raceday officials.
Starters and results showing 3rd placed, Young Idea.
Starters and results of the 1938 W S Cox Plate.
Back cover showing Railway & Entrance charges.

References

National Library of Australia (13 March 1939). "Young Idea Career Prizemoney". No. 15. The Sun Sydney N S W. Retrieved 28 January 2021.
Racehorsetalk. "Young Idea Race Records". www.racehorsetalk.com.au. Retrieved 21 January 2021.
National Library of Australia (17 June 1939). "Young Idea Retired to Stud". No. 15. The Australasian - Melbourne. Retrieved 7 February 2021.
National Library of Australia (30 April 1936). "Young Idea Sale Price". No. 23. Chronicle Adelaide. Retrieved 21 January 2021.
Australian Stud Book. "Young Idea Breeding". www.studbook.org.au. Retrieved 28 January 2021.
Pedigreequery. "Young Idea Tabulated Pedigree". pedigreequery.com. Retrieved 30 January 2021.
National Library of Australia (20 July 1935). "Constant Son Sire". No. 22. The Australasian - Melbourne. Retrieved 28 January 2021.
Australian Stud Book. "Constant Son Stake Winners". www.studbook.org.au. Retrieved 28 January 2021.
Leading Sires in Great Britain and Ireland. "Son in Law Grandsire". www.tbheritage.com. Retrieved 31 January 2021.
Pedigreequery. "Persuasion Pedigree". pedigreequery.com. Retrieved 28 January 2021.
Leading Sires in Australia. "The Welkin Leading Sire". www.tbheritage.com. Retrieved 30 January 2021.
National Library of Australia (19 September 1935). "Sir Herbert Maitland Stakes Finish". No. 14. The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

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[1] National Library of Australia (13 March 1939). "Young Idea Career Prizemoney". No. 15. The Sun Sydney N S W. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

[2] Racehorsetalk. "Young Idea Race Records". www.racehorsetalk.com.au. Retrieved 21 January 2021.

[3] National Library of Australia (17 June 1939). "Young Idea Retired to Stud". No. 15. The Australasian - Melbourne. Retrieved 7 February 2021.

[4] National Library of Australia (30 April 1936). "Young Idea Sale Price". No. 23. Chronicle Adelaide. Retrieved 21 January 2021.

[5] Australian Stud Book. "Young Idea Breeding". www.studbook.org.au. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

[6] Pedigreequery. "Young Idea Tabulated Pedigree". pedigreequery.com. Retrieved 30 January 2021.

[7] National Library of Australia (20 July 1935). "Constant Son Sire". No. 22. The Australasian - Melbourne. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

[8] Australian Stud Book. "Constant Son Stake Winners". www.studbook.org.au. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

[9] Leading Sires in Great Britain and Ireland. "Son in Law Grandsire". www.tbheritage.com. Retrieved 31 January 2021.

[10] Pedigreequery. "Persuasion Pedigree". pedigreequery.com. Retrieved 28 January 2021.

[11] Leading Sires in Australia. "The Welkin Leading Sire". www.tbheritage.com. Retrieved 30 January 2021.

[12] National Library of Australia (19 September 1935). "Sir Herbert Maitland Stakes Finish". No. 14. The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 28 January 2021.