討論

See also: 讨论

Chinese
 
ask for; send punitive expedition; to demand; to marry
 
to talk (about); to discuss; theory; by the; per; the Analects (of Confucius)
trad. (討論) 討 論
simp. (讨论) 讨 论

Pronunciation
Rime
Character 討 論 論 論
Reading # 1/1 1/3 2/3 3/3
Initial (聲) 透 (6) 來 (37) 來 (37) 來 (37)
Final (韻) 豪 (89) 諄 (47) 魂 (55) 魂 (55)
Tone (調) Rising (X) Level (Ø) Level (Ø) Departing (H)
Openness (開合) Open Closed Closed Closed
Division (等) I III I I
Fanqie 他浩切 力迍切 盧昆切 盧困切
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang		 /tʰɑuX/ /liuɪn/ /luən/ /luənH/
Pan
Wuyun		 /tʰɑuX/ /lʷin/ /luon/ /luonH/
Shao
Rongfen		 /tʰɑuX/ /ljuen/ /luən/ /luənH/
Edwin
Pulleyblank		 /tʰawX/ /lwin/ /lwən/ /lwənH/
Li
Rong		 /tʰɑuX/ /liuĕn/ /luən/ /luənH/
Wang
Li		 /tʰɑuX/ /lĭuĕn/ /luən/ /luənH/
Bernard
Karlgren		 /tʰɑuX/ /li̯uĕn/ /luən/ /luənH/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex		 tǎo lún lún lùn
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character 討 論 論 論
Reading # 1/1 1/3 2/3 3/3
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin)		 tǎo lún lún lùn
Middle
Chinese		 ‹ thawX › ‹ lwin › ‹ lwon › ‹ lwonH ›
Old
Chinese		 /*[t]ʰˁuʔ/ /*[r]u[n]/ /*[r]ˁu[n]/ /*[r]ˁu[n]-s/
English examine; denounce (in name of Lúnyǔ 論語) discuss, examine discussion, discourse

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character 討 論 論 論
Reading # 1/1 1/3 2/3 3/3
No. 12374 8649 8656 8667
Phonetic
component		 討 侖 侖 侖
Rime
group		 幽 文 文 文
Rime
subdivision		 1 2 2 2
Corresponding
MC rime		 討 論 論 淪
Old
Chinese		 /*tʰuːʔ/ /*ruːn/ /*ruːns/ /*run/
Notes 疑肘聲

Verb

討論

  1. to discuss; to talk over
    他們詳細討論了這件事，結果達成諒解。 [MSC, trad.]
    他们详细讨论了这件事，结果达成谅解。 [MSC, simp.]
    Tāmen xiángxì tǎolùn le zhè jiàn shì, jiéguǒ dáchéng liàngjiě. [Pinyin]
    They discussed the matter in detail, and finally came to an understanding.

Synonyms
Synonyms of 討論

Noun

討論

  1. discussion
    你可以參與他們的討論。 [MSC, trad.]
    你可以参与他们的讨论。 [MSC, simp.]
    Nǐ kěyǐ cānyù tāmen de tǎolùn. [Pinyin]
    You can join in their discussion.

Derived terms

Descendants
Sino-Xenic (討論):

Japanese
Kanji in this term
討 論
とう
Grade: 6		 ろん
Grade: 6
on’yomi

Pronunciation

Noun

討論 (hiragana とうろん, rōmaji tōron)

  1. debate
  2. discussion

Synonyms

Verb

討論する (hiragana とうろんする, rōmaji tōron suru)

  1. to debate
  2. to discuss

Conjugation
Conjugation of "討論する" (See Appendix:Japanese verbs.)
Stem forms
Imperfective (未然形) 討論し とうろんし tōron shi
Continuative (連用形) 討論し とうろんし tōron shi
Terminal (終止形) 討論する とうろんする tōron suru
Attributive (連体形) 討論する とうろんする tōron suru
Hypothetical (仮定形) 討論すれ とうろんすれ tōron sure
Imperative (命令形) 討論せよ¹
討論しろ²		 とうろんせよ¹
とうろんしろ²		 tōron seyo¹
tōron shiro²
Key constructions
Passive 討論される とうろんされる tōron sareru
Causative 討論させる
討論さす		 とうろんさせる
とうろんさす		 tōron saseru
tōron sasu
Potential 討論できる とうろんできる tōron dekiru
Volitional 討論しよう とうろんしよう tōron shiyō
Negative 討論しない とうろんしない tōron shinai
Negative continuative 討論せず とうろんせず tōron sezu
Formal 討論します とうろんします tōron shimasu
Perfective 討論した とうろんした tōron shita
Conjunctive 討論して とうろんして tōron shite
Hypothetical conditional 討論すれば とうろんすれば tōron sureba
¹ Written imperative

² Spoken imperative

Synonyms

References
  1. 1998, NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 (NHK Japanese Pronunciation Accent Dictionary) (in Japanese), Tōkyō: NHK, →ISBN
  • 2002, Ineko Kondō; Fumi Takano; Mary E Althaus; et. al., Shogakukan Progressive Japanese-English Dictionary, Third Edition, Tokyo: Shōgakukan, →ISBN.

Korean
Hanja in this term
討論

Noun

討論 • (toron) (hangeul 토론)

  1. Hanja form? of 토론 (“debate, controversy”).

Vietnamese
Hán tự in this word
討論

Noun

討論

  1. Hán tự form of thảo luận (“debate, controversy”).
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